mrhodes_47@earthlink.net wrote:

> No, I don't. The "I AM" stresses His existence, (as He stood before
> those He spoke to), and pushes at the faith of the hearer.


> But the motive for
> Christ's statement you quoted is not as difficult to find.

I know the motive: It was to tell the Pharisees the He is True
God. Your proposed motive has Christ being dishonest. He says
"today" as a little white lie to make thief feel better.

Christ can't be subject to a thing (time) which He created.

Bart

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Matthew Johnson wrote:

>
> Oh, no. This, Loren, is where you show that you do not understand the "Nicene
> Trinity" any better than 'basicallyblue' does! As Lossky points out (why, oh
> why, haven't your ead Lossky yet?), the major moral idea of the dogma of the
> Trinity IS based on the fact that the Persons are free of their nature, what
> they are and do is not _dictated_ by nature, as it is for fallen creation.
>

Matthew, God Himself says that HE cannot lie.

Gary

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A Thought from James for Teachers and all

Jas:3:1: My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the
greater condemnation.
Jas:3:2: For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word,
the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
Jas:3:3: Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us;
and we turn about their whole body.
Jas:3:4: Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are
driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm,
whithersoever the governor listeth.
Jas:3:5: Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things.
Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
Jas:3:6: And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue
among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the
course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
Jas:3:7: For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of
things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
Jas:3:8: But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of
deadly poison.
Jas:3:9: Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we
men, which are made after the similitude of God.
Jas:3:10: Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My
brethren, these things ought not so to be.
Jas:3:11: Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and
bitter?
Jas:3